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dj69918
July 30th, 2010 at 16:54
OMG 2:46 is the funniest!!
The pope is the sith leader in spirit and appearance!!!
sincristo
July 30th, 2010 at 17:08
Forgive my belated opinion, but…. BRILLIANT!
ScaryTeri101
July 30th, 2010 at 18:07
I <3 Gir
and this is very true.
pgfracing
July 30th, 2010 at 18:53
You propose that you can only come to God by three methods 1. Parents 2. Teacher 3. Psychosis. 1Jn 4:19 WeG2249 loveG25 him,G846 becauseG3754 heG846 firstG4413 lovedG25 us.G2248 .
pgfracing
July 30th, 2010 at 19:37
Why do you compare a believer to an alcoholic?
macafeek215
July 30th, 2010 at 19:56
1:23 Triple Titties
FuckSlice
July 30th, 2010 at 20:01
@FFreeThinker That part about how you cannot have a leader elected without them at least faking religious faith made me think of the recent elections here in the U.K.. I remember watching one of the Q&A sessions with Nick Clegg and he openly said he was “not religious”. My point being that he felt free enough to say that without fear of reprisal, I think this goes some way to showing how the people here care more about what the party can actually DO and less of what they believe.
CMRage
July 30th, 2010 at 20:48
@jl575 Straight atheists need to pop our more children! Get to screwing that’s an order! lol
From us lesbian/gay atheists. We need to adopt by the busload! lol
We can also attempt to procreate via sex, despite all scientific evidence proving it’s impossible, it’s still fun to try! lol
sariaVN
July 30th, 2010 at 21:20
hello! can somebody help me please, i heard this song on dj remix CD and i don’t know the name of the song maybe like that: we can…come, i’ll see you again, monday to fight…. The voice of the boy in this song is so different , somebody know this song, ok go my home and thanks so much!
GenRev1611
July 30th, 2010 at 22:03
@trueleroix …in induction/deduction are consistent with the nature and attributes of the Christian God. These universal concepts that arrive us to ABSOLUTE TRUTH therefore can only be accounted for with in Christian theistic thinking. This is what’s called the Transcendental Argument for the Existence of God. That is without God, you cannot prove anything. And by the way, I wasn’t referring to laws of physics.
GenRev1611
July 30th, 2010 at 22:05
@trueleroix Well in conclusion I’ll state that the problem with agnostic/atheists approach to weigh the proofs/lack there of for God’s existence is just that. To weigh these proofs using empirical methods is just as naive as using them to weigh proofs to validate/invalidate inductive/deductive reasoning. For one must use these laws of reasoning in order to begin dialogue. It is my position then that the laws utilized…
trueleroix
July 30th, 2010 at 22:37
@GenRev1611 Thanks for bringing it back…I assume that any given universe that any sentient beings would have some laws of physics…maybe different, or maybe the same as our known universe, but I would not cite some intelligence for their existence.
GenRev1611
July 30th, 2010 at 22:48
@trueleroix I admit, I did jump the gun and I’m guilty of a red herring by misrepresenting your position. You obviously believe that there is just not ENOUGH evidence for the existence of a DEITY. I stand corrected. What I’m stating is that all the while you use laws of reasoning in order to make your case for lack of evidence. You fail to realize that you first need to account for such laws. I’m still waiting for the answer to my question. How do you account for these laws?
trueleroix
July 30th, 2010 at 23:10
@GenRev1611 Stop it! It is impossible to disprove the existence of any god and you know it. I have never said that I could or would do that. You need to be more honest if you want to deal with me. I know that it’s tough for you, seeing that you lie to yourself so much, but try harder, you may become slightly less of a bold faced liar over time and even a slightly honest person with a strong effort.
GenRev1611
July 30th, 2010 at 23:21
@trueleroix You want the luxury to disprove God when all the while you do so, you use inductive and deductive reasoning. I’ve asked you repeatedly, how is it that you can even account for these very forms of reasoning you boast of using to disprove God? Reasoning itself by nature requires THE CONCEPT OF ABSOLUTE TRUTH, and the assumption that such a concept exists. Until you can answer that, your attempts to disprove God will be feeble.
trueleroix
July 31st, 2010 at 00:02
@GenRev1611 Forget The Bible. i read that. That God obviously does not exist. If you want to try to speak of a god, let’s try one that you have a chance with. The Hebrew God…Holy Crap, come, on…You have read The Bible…There is no way…
GenRev1611
July 31st, 2010 at 00:19
@trueleroix At this point you will tell me to prove this using logic and induction. Now I ask you what does logic and induction have to do with your worldview. How can you account for your use of it? Once you can account for it, then we can get deeper into the Bible. Prove that it is coherent in your view to use laws you cannot account for.
GenRev1611
July 31st, 2010 at 00:40
@trueleroix First there is the Law of Identity supported of the Nature of God in Exodus 3:14. A is A, a thing or a being is what it is and cannot be anything other. Law of Contradiction supported in 2 Corinthians 1:18 in that God is faithful and cannot lie. The Law of excluded middle supported in Matt. 12:30. Induction Eph. 1:11 “He works all things according to the counsel of his will.” The world is governed by laws that are consistent with His nature.
trueleroix
July 31st, 2010 at 01:30
@GenRev1611 Stop right there. You tell me how logic and induction have anything to do with a Christian worldview.
GenRev1611
July 31st, 2010 at 01:48
@trueleroix If logic and induction are not from a Christian worldview please tell me first how you can account for them before you impose them on the Bible. If you can do this in a coherent fashion, then I’ll be glad to have that discussion about the Bible with you.
GenRev1611
July 31st, 2010 at 02:24
@trueleroix I see your having trouble defending your view from an epistemological standpoint. I know what’s next, you will use laws of logic and inductive reasoning, both of which you cannot account for. And use them to disprove Christianity. Hence you will try to disprove the existence of God by borrowing from a Christian worldview.
trueleroix
July 31st, 2010 at 02:35
@GenRev1611 We should probably not discuss the Christian god as it certainly does not exist. Please read a Bible, and you will see what I mean.
GenRev1611
July 31st, 2010 at 03:04
@GenRev1611 . Therefore Christianity the only coherent position in matters of induction. I never said you CAN’T INDUCT, I said that you cannot account for induction.
GenRev1611
July 31st, 2010 at 03:52
@trueleroix Actually inductive reasoning does not require the existence of ‘A GOD’ as you put it. If that were the case then yes ‘A GOD’ can change the rules because pagan gods for example have a mutable nature. Inductive reasoning can only be accounted for if the God that is referred to is immutable. Christianity holds to the doctrine of the immutability of God and a providential nature that is consistant with induction.
trueleroix
July 31st, 2010 at 04:48
@GenRev1611 If I get this correct you are stating that:
Inductive reasoning = required existence of a god
This is a huge leap, and you have done nothing to show any evidence for it. I can induct, and I can assume. the existence of an all powerful god would ruin that in that it could change the rules at any time, so you actually have served to show evidence against the existence of any god.